October 27, 2010

Posted on 27. Oct, 2010 by in 2010 Shows

This Week on Midweek Politics with David Pakman / October 27th, 2010

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–Bill Scher from Campaign for America’s Future and LiberalOasis.com and Kristen Soltis from The Winston Group join us live to discuss the 2010 election and everyone makes their predictions for the House and Senate.

–Juan Williams gets fired from NPR and signed to a bigger contract with Fox News, and David Pakman says he should not have been fired and that NPR bungled the entire situation.

–We look at whether or not it is possible to have an adult discussion about media coverage since 9/11 and the effect on Muslim stereotypes without drawing criticism from political extremes on both sides.

–MoveOn member Lauren Valle is stomped on by a Rand Paul supporter Tim Profitt at a recent campaign event, and conservatives claim the entire story is being distorted because liberals say the stomping was on Lauren’s back, not her head.

–Sharron Angle’s bizarre campaign at with stock Getty images of Hispanics, and her further claims that some Hispanics look Asian.

–Amendment 62 in Colorado, supported by Senate candidate Ken Buck, would lay the groundwork to ban all abortions, including those where the life of the mother is in danger, since being against abortion is being pro-life.

–We look at what Democrats should do in the last few days before the election.

–Wayne Besen from Truth Wins Out calls in to discuss the myth about gays and lesbians trying to convert heterosexuals, but a bad cell phone signal cuts the interview short.

–More examples of right wing terror, this time from Carlsbad, California, where a shooter allegedly yelled “Death to Obama” while firing his gun on a playground, and a discussion about why the media does not cover these stories honestly.

–We discuss whether  race will ever disappear as a basis for prejudice and discrimination.

–Islamic Law dictates a recent ruling in the United Arab Emirates that confirms men can beat their wives and kids as long as it does not leave a mark.

–New stations airing Midweek Politics in California and New Mexico.

–Last week’s poll about Bill O’Reilly on the view and a new poll about Juan Williams’ firing

–Emails calling David Pakman a bitch, about Richard Iott, and Carl Paladino.

–On the Bonus Show, David Pakman discusses an ethical dilemma related to a voiceover job offer, Louis and David talk about their most bizarre airline experiences, and more discussion of election 2010 and much more.

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11 Responses to “October 27, 2010”

  1. Nyckname

    27. Oct, 2010

    Listening to you talk about the UAE ruling regarding the beating of wives. There are “christians” in this country who want the same thing. There is a “right” whinge candidate in Florida who wants all the biblical laws from Leviticus enforced, including the stoning of disrespectful children.

  2. kurt andersen

    28. Oct, 2010

    I think you mr radio host AND your co host will someday make a slip of the tongue….hahaha….you look like and sound like “smug” college boys.

    who are you kidding?

    i’m not defending dr L’s staement but i KNOW you are both straight college boys…i bet you’d never be at ease with anyone but an alligator wearing shirt just like yourself. fact

  3. Omar

    28. Oct, 2010

    Dude, first time listener here, and I gotta say you really ought to get a little educated about the Muslim world before offering your opinion on it.

    “Muslim Garb”? “Muslims” as a group don’t wear turbans any more than Westerners (like say, the French) wear cowboy hats.

    Burqas in the UAE? That was a “good point”? The national dress that has only been enforced, anywhere in the world, ever, for 5 years in Afghanistan, and that has only ever been worn in Afghanistan and the northern reaches of Pakistan? That one? What point was good there?

    Again, these are ridiculous stereotypes you’re playing off that are not good points. They’re childish stereotypes, no more reasonable than saying “How will Americans ever pay attention to the deaths in Iraq when they have siestas?” “Good point”.

    Screw that it’s Mexico and not America.
    Screw that it doesn’t mean 24 hours of unconsciousness.
    I’ve got a ridiculous stereotype and a complete lack of education on the subject, so I guess I better just run with what I’ve got.

    As for the wife-beating in the UAE, the case came down AGAINST the wife-beater. Look up the case instead of just assuming. Aren’t you trying to Present news? Shouldn’t you be checking the facts instead of making it up as you go along?

    I know the CBS article didn’t sound like it went against the wife beater, but it did. Not enough in my opinion, but here, try the source of their information for greater detail. (Link below)

    It also gives you an insight into the combination of rational discourse and stupid that mixed in to give those results you found, and it goes on further to explain the religious position. Including the Prophets quote on the matter: “The Prophet said: “Only a wicked person hits his wife.”"

    Original Source:
    http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/courts/court-rules-on-domestic-discipline?pageCount=1

    You can also see the outrage in the comments that the punishment was so light and the laxity of the ruling with regard punishing people who beat their wives.

  4. Tate

    28. Oct, 2010

    Williams absolutely should have been fired by NPR for saying something that was blatantly racist. He should be on Fox if he wants to perpetuate hate and fear of brown people who he decides are Muslims. If you replace the word “Muslim” with “Jewish” or “Black” people would be shouting racism from every rooftop. We are conditioned to hate people but that does not make it morally acceptable when we fail to challenge it. The first step to combatting racism is learning to recognize it. Props to NPR for fighting the good fight.

  5. Randi

    29. Oct, 2010

    You missed an important point on CO amendment 62. Not only would it outlaw all abortions in all cases, but it would also outlaw most forms of birth control. The amendment describes a person as a fertilized egg. Chemical birth control works by keeping a fertilized egg from implanting.

  6. Steve

    29. Oct, 2010

    This is the first time I listen to your broadcast. I think Williams should have been fired a long, long, loooooong time ago. I agree with you, this was not the best vehicle to get him fired, however, reading the tone of voice and body language of the NPR President you could tell that this was the straw that broke the proverbial camel’s back. We do not know what the previous warnings to Mr. Williams included, but it seems that he was already skating on thin ice. Muslims’ freedom of religion in the US is an uncomfortable topic to talk about, and Luis did not look comfortable talking about it, but then again so was racism about 30 years ago when I attended college, and it took the LA riots almost 20 years ago to have a serious discussion on race in this country. We have made some progress, but can we still improve quite a bit. Now Muslims, and by extention any foreigner, who live in the US confront a certain level of discrimination since 9/11, I was in DC at the time. To hear someone representing NPR, which is supposed to be objective in their news coverage, share his opinions on air is quite disheartening. Did he have a right to share his opinion? You said yes, I disagree. If you are representing an entity and not yourself, professionally you have to represent the views of that entity and leave your personal opinions as personal. He was on Fox BECAUSE he worked for NPR. If he worked for the Bloomington Pantagraph I doubt he would be invited. It is one thing hearing Bill O’Reilly say something incoherent and sophomoric, it is quite another to hear someone who claims to support civil rights, based on the books he’s written (his words not mine), agreeing with him quite another. Just writing books about civil rights does not mean that you believe in them. It kind of makes me think that Juan Williams believes in civil rights as much as those other people of color who have claimed to support the civil rights movement like Condoleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, and Alan Keyes.

  7. Kevin McDermott

    30. Oct, 2010

    As an industry professional, I disagree with kurt andersen. “Slip up”? He obviously doesn’t understand that there is nothing to “slip up” when you are voicing commentary. “Smug college boys” he also states. I guess some people think that intelligent commentary is smug. I am confident that you will not be dissuaded by comments from people like kurt andersen who just doesn’t get it. You should be broadcasting on mainstream radio. Your perspective is needed in today’s society.

  8. Will Q

    30. Oct, 2010

    I agree Kevin…as Kurt could not (or chose not) to present a logical argument countering Dave, he chose to slur him with rhetoric (this is a common rhetorical ploy for those who have nothing better to say).

    Keep this station going – good stuff guys!

    : )

  9. J. Bavet

    31. Oct, 2010

    Freedom of speech means freedom of speech, and Williams’ comments were not politically correct, so he was fired. I believe he should have never been hired by anybody in the first place because he is a buffoon. Murdoch loves the publicity by now giving him big bucks even though Williams is pretty much of an erratic imbecile.

  10. Jordan Toohey

    01. Nov, 2010

    I also agree with Kevin. What is Kurt even talking about? If he wants to make accusations about your lack of professionalism by referring to you as a “smug college boy”, maybe he should do his research. Having an MBA from Bentley University makes you a “smug graduate.” Alligator in a shirt? What? I think at this juncture in life, if you’re old enough to talk about politics, you’re old enough to put the beer down BEFORE typing in a public forum. Not pointing any fingers, but I think we all know who I’m talking about here.

    Side note: I wonder if “straight college boys” was in reference to the sexual orientation of both of you, or was some type of Compton-style slang. The world may never know…

  11. zdrowe

    17. Mar, 2011

    You need to take a lesson from my Canadian-born father and start rooting for the country of your citizenship: America. Few things are more annoying than someone who becomes a citizen on paper, but not with their heart.

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